HOT TOPIC: God's Nature vs His Character

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In another thread we veered off ending up discussing the Nature of God esepcially His omniscience and omnipotence.

I hold that God is ALL powerful and ALL knowing and He just chooses not to do somethings and to not know certain things when it suits His plans.

The other side of the argument is that there are certain things God cannot do, like sin. That it is not just Him choosing to not sin but that He is completely incapable of sin, that it is an actual limit to His omnipotence and omniscience.

This thread is meant to give all an opportunity to present arguments for either side.

I will begin by posting a few responses to the last few posts of one other poster in the previous thread.

Staying the course

Thanks for keeping Mariology out of this thread brothers. I appreciate it.

As a poster I am curious, Michael, what "seeds of doubt" you see in our Lord's agony in the garden? Do you see a humanity that was capable of failing or falling? Do you see a man that was really tempted after His fast, or Christ did not suffer in all points like us? Jeff, if the incarnate Christ walked the earth as fully man (not merely but fully) then does not the possibility of His failure have to exist too? Why did the angels need to strengthen Him? The medical condition (known to a few doctors who attended condemned men) which caused bleeding through the pores of the skin left the person dehydrated and weak ... Is it difficult to believe the Son needed the strength of the angels and, for that matter, the sight of His friend and mother at the foot of the Cross? Do we have to be careful not to take something away from Christ's humanity if we leave Him as one who cannot sin?

"Why have you forsaken me?" But God cannot forsake God so unless one accepts a kenotic vs hypostatic view of the person of Christ, then God could not really ever forsake Christ even though the man felt forsaken. This could drive a person crazy if you go too deep in this mystery. I have to give you two credit for this discussion. It is one of those topics ML actually recommends staying away from. Ummm ML is not Michael Legna in this case by the way but you can guess who I mean. My mind cant get fully around a Person who walked about 30 years on this earth, and is as fully man as I am (hungry, tired, tempted, died) but by definition this same Person is my God and therefore carries all the Divine/moral attributes of God.

Submitted as a poster,