Understanding Revelation *** THREAD TEMPORARILY SHUTDOWN BY MODERATOR

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This thread is dedicated to discussion of certain difficult yet important passages of Revelation. As every man is fallible and his understanding limited the understanding presented here may be in error, yet may also shine some light on these important passages.

To understand Revelation it is important to understand that Bible is the book of both general judgments (eternal unchangeable truth or verity) and specific judgments which are the application of general judgments to specific conditions arising in particular space and time (specific truth relevant to particular historical conditions or truth). To give people of God knowledge of general judgments of verity revealed to them in the Bible and understanding of application of judgments to specific conditions arising in particular space and time or specific judgments of truth God makes seer-priests to arise among them.

The important passage of the scripture to understand is Revelation 13:2

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority (KJV).

The general judgment contained here may be as follows:

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard - a godless European Empire, the fourth Rome, arising out of European Union, and led by the former EU president declaring himself Emperor

and his feet were as the feet of a bear - a godless European Empire will include four countries of the former soviet union:
Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Kazakhstan

and his mouth as the mouth of a lion - a godless European Empire will include the UK

and the dragon gave him his power

a godless European Empire will be protected by China

and his seat

a godless European Empire will have an economic integration agreement with China aimed at creation of an economic union

and great authority

a godless European Empire and China combined will have 4/5 votes on the Security Council of the UN, or even unanimity if USA will join, giving it veto power over all UN decisions and ability to pass together with the client states any legislation in the name of the nations of the world.

The important passage of the scripture to understand is Revelation 13:3

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast (KJV).

The general judgment contained here may be as follows:

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death

communism in former ussr destroyed and ussr impoverished yet the structures of the communist rule preserved in secret

and his deadly wound was healed

the territory of the former ussr will be restored

and all the world wondered after the beast

the restoration will make the new ussr entity even stronger and richer

The specific judgment contained here may be as follows:

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death

An Emperor from the house of Romanovs, ex-Russian Emperors will arise, and will be crowned by the Pope as Emperor over European Empire, possibly the great duke George Michael Romanov Hohenzollern, who has direct claims to Russian, German and British thrones, who has given his oath as great duke in Jerusalem, and thus may legitimately be crowned Emperor over Europe and, subsequently, King of Israel. He will be mortally wounded by the assassination attempt.

and his deadly wound was healed

the wound will be healed miraculously, as it is written in Luke

Luke:22:50 And one of them smote the servant of the high priest, and cut off his right ear (KJV).
Luke:22:51 And Jesus answered and said, Suffer ye thus far. And he touched his ear, and healed him (KJV).

So, the dragon is entitled to two specific judgments under the Law of the Lord, one applicable to the servant of the high priest, and the other applicable to his servant in history, and the priest of the Lord Jesus Christ, this Emperor

and all the world wondered after the beast

this man is called the beast, because he will usurp the civil authority of Lord Jesus Christ as King over Israel and Emperor (King of Kings) over Gentiles, will take priestly rites unto Lord Jesus Christ while at the same time behaving himself as a beast of the field, progressively taking over the attributes pertaining to Lord God Jehovah, Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit alone, thus defiling the sanctuary. *** MODERATOR HAS DELETED THIS SECTION OF TEXT AS A BLATANT VIOLATION OF POSTING POLICY. DO NOT ASSAULT ANY GROUP OR BELIEF SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, ON THIS FORUM. PLEASE EMAIL ME AT dfugett2010@gmail.com FOR A FURTHER EXPLANATION OF THE POSTING POLICY. IF YOU READ THE THREADS HERE YOU WILL FIND THERE IS GREAT LATITUDE IN WHAT WE SAY TO EACH OTHER. IN FACT SOME OF YOUR BELIEFS MAY BE SHARED BY SOME HERE BUT THERE ARE LINES OF WHAT ARE AND ARE NOT ALLOWED. YOU CROSSED THEM. THIS THREAD IS CLOSED AND ALL OVERLY OFFENSIVE COMMENTS DELETED. NOW, THE NATURE OF MODERATION MEANS SOME MAY FIND REMAING COMMENTS OFFENSIVE AND YOU, THE AUTHOR, MAY FIND THE COMMENTS I DELETED NOT OFFENSIVE AT ALL. THE FINAL CALL IS MINE TO MAKE ... CONTACT ME SO I CAN SEE WHERE YOUR THINKING IS AT AND EXPLAIN THE POSTING POLICY --- DAN FUGETT, SR MODERATOR

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The second beast of Revelation 13:11-18 - part 1

The second beast of Revelation 13:11-18

This thread is dedicated to the discussion of certain difficult, yet important passages of Revelation. As every man is fallible and his understanding limited, the understanding presented here may be in error, yet may also shine some light on these important passages.

I think, may be in error, that the second beast of Revelation 13:11-18 would be judash iscariot incarnate, sent by Lord Jesus Christ to earth under a new name unto a Christian nation under St. Matthew 5:41: And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain (KJV). judash iscariot would be absolved of his sins, being forgiven by Lord Jesus Christ. As judash iscariot claimed that the high priest of Israel, scribes and pharisees deceived and compelled him into betraying Lord Jesus Christ and as judash iscariot claimed that he had done what was lawful under the law of the Lord, Lord Jesus Christ, the High Priest of Israel, would establish him to be a temple priest of Israel and a judge of Israel under St. Matthew 19:28, as well as an apostle unto jews and gentiles, any apostle of Jesus Christ has been since the apostolic service of St. Paul, putting all sins of judash iscariot upon the reprobate Christ-rejecting part of the nation of Israel.

Thus religious authority of judash iscariot over the reprobate jews is legitimate under the authority of the temple priest of Israel in absence of the High Priest, and constitutes a righteous judgment of them in the eyes of the God the Father and Lord Jesus Christ under Exodus 21:23-25, as the jews themselves admitted guilt in St. Matthew 27:25. judash iscariot's religious authority over Christ-affirming jews is limited to the extent he in his words and deeds confirms to the Law of the Lord as established in the five books of the Torah and the Gospel of Lord Jesus Christ as established in St. Matthew, St. Luke, St. Mark, St. John and the Book of Revelation.

Moreover, judash iscariot's religious authority over the reprobate Christians, who do not hear the word of Jesus Christ, and do not do his commandments, is legitimate apostolic authority performed in absence of Lord Jesus Christ under St. Matthew 18:18, and constitutes a righteous judgment of apostate Christians, primarily Catholics, in the eyes of the Lord Jesus Christ, as Roman popes claimed apostolic authority and, subsequently, temporal authority to establish principalities, and powers, and dominions, and thrones in Christian nations, eventually appropriating unto themselves the attributes and the authority that only Jesus Christ can have on earth, turning themselves into false apostles. judash iscariot's religious authority over faithful Christians is limited to the extent he in his words and deeds confirms to the Gospel of Lord Jesus Christ as established in St. Matthew, St. Luke, St. Mark, St. John and the Book of Revelation.




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