Finding faith?

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What is the nature of saving faith? What if you end up in a situation opposite to the man in Mark the sense, you know God CAN, but you no longer believe that He WILL help you or save you?

What if despite having had what you thought was true faith, despite centering your life on God for years, all you get is silence within and without? You see your life falling apart in every possible way for no rhyme or reason - esp in areas where you completely trusted God to deliever you with a child-like faith. And on top of it there is no inner follow a check-list of dos and don'ts because it says so in the Bible - but there's no real fruit of the Spirit within - no joy, hope, love or peace...Atleast, even if it was there earlier - it has died.

So what conclusions do you draw from your experiences or the lack of those? That your faith is weak? Well, how does one produce a stronger faith?

I've been praying for faith and spiritual health for years...what more must I do to have proper faith? Doesn't faith flow from grace? So have I been denied that grace? After yrs of opposition, should I accept Calvinism to be true? That grace is extended only to a select few, and I don't happen to be one?

And if faith is a function of my will, then how do I go about willing it? In the last couple of months, I've strongly come to doubt that I have whatever it takes to have God's presence in my life. I look at my life now, and all I feel for God is fear - for bad as things are, I know He could make them even worse (in order to test me?). How can I fake a loving devotion to Him?

It's a very strange situation - I know my life is not worth a bean without God...yet I also know that He's not in my life and there's nothing I can do to bring Him into my life..desperate though I may be..Can one continue to believe that God is in his life year after year, in the absence of any internal or external corroboration of that?

crossing lines

Visit the forum guidelines. You will see that it is inappropriate to hassle and condemn other posters as heretical or sneer at other denominations in general. Also, slow down and actually read my earlier post, and you will discover that I never associated sanctification with speaking in tongues--my childhood church is careful to separate the two, actually. You just read what you wanted. Your opinions are unattractive to me, but your name calling is unacceptable under the guidelines. Please attempt respect even in the face of disagreement.

It is highly inconsistent to pull from what you see as passages from a random variety of your favorite Christian writers and extrapolate from that a doctrine which you then apply to all Christians. You point out that this occurs to Christians from multiple denominations, which means that people with enormously different beliefs--including differences regarding what "holiness" even is--can come to a particular religious experience which makes them holy. How does that translate, in your mind, to an experience which makes everybody holy in the same way? That is why it is offensive to me to see you try and apply the doctrine of sanctification to every spiritual wound like some kind of cure-all salve, when perhaps it should be treated more like specialty treatment applied under specific circumstances.

Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life;
And these are they which bear witness of me;
And ye will not come to me, that ye may have life. (John 5:39-40)