Acts The Church and Ministerial Training

Kaitiaki's picture

Basically this is just a "what do we learn about the Church from Acts?" thread. As we watch Paul and Barnabas and then Paul and Silas building the Church in Acts, what can we learn about their concept of the Church as a whole? Robert suggested my original plan was too cumbersome so asked me to create new threads.

Thread Moderator: Kaitiaki

There are two aspects to this thread: the training of the local congregation (for the work of ministry - as in Ephesians) and the theological training of ministers (or pastors).

Acts shows us local congregations that trained young men (and women) for every appropriate aspect of Church work. That included the work of ministry and missions. Discuss this statement. Do you think it is valid? What implications (if any) are there for the present system in almost every denomination of sending young men to a seminary to be trained? How does your Church seek to apply those implications in the way they train ministers and missionaries?

CLARK E. WADE's picture

Problems with the RealChurch.com comments...

Hey brother,

To be honest with you, I didn't understand any of this and it made so little sense to me.

Dan: There is a spirit against leadership.

Clark: We really believe in the Headship of Jesus Christ as the leadership of the body of Christ that operates throughout His body as He wills and when He wills according to the manifestation of the Spirit that He has placed in each person for the common good.

Dan: A tremendous price will be paid by denying those whom Jesus sends and anoints.

Clark: Who is to decide that one? So, let me get this right? A brother who goes to bible college for two or three years is ordained and is an "anointed" one, no matter if the brothers and sisters he is talking to have been walking with Christ for 30, 40, 50, 60 years? Is there less anointing on the other brothers and sisters because of this "ordination" from a bible college?

Dan: House churches often overreact to the false leadership of the institutional church by denying the biblical need of the five-fold ministry.

Clark: We believe in the five-fold ministry. We believe apostles, prophets, evangelists and pastors/teachers are necessary for the perfecting of the saints for the work of the minsistry. These ministries do not grow out of the soil of the ordination that takes place with a seminary degree but out of the soil of authentic fellowship that is "in Him and in fellowship with one another" (Eph. 2:22).

Dan: Our individualism and independence have created a false sense of body ministry. Because we deny the diversity of ministry of the universal church, without which we cannot survive in times of shaking, God has withheld from us His power and presence.

Clark: I'm not sure what this means. In my opinion, a false sense of body ministry is what happens when people attend a church to sing three songs and hear a sermon and call that "body ministry." Is "body ministry" what happens when we are told to turn around and shake the hand of person behind our pew? It takes the whole body to minister Christ "one to another" and this just can't take place through one or two special speakers. "Body ministry" is just what it says.

Dan: Many individuals feel threatened by the experience and revelation of the five-fold ministry and shelter themselves in isolated home meetings. They have forgotten that the diversity of all ministry is not competition but it complements and builds up the body of Christ. This is one reason that the church has such a low level of maturity.

Clark: Again, I'm not sure what this is saying or what it means. Where is the five-fold ministry taking place in a typical church setting? Are people sheltering themselves in isolated home meetings because they are threatened by the five-fold ministry? I actually anticipate the five-fold ministry growing out of the soil of our fellowship together, in His good time.

Dan: They have forgotten that the diversity of all ministry is not competition but it complements and builds up the body of Christ. This is one reason that the church has such a low level of maturity.

Clark: So, is this saying that the reason that the church has such a low level of maturity is because the house churches don't recognize "that the diversity of all ministry is not competition but it complements and build up the body of Christ?"

Dan, all of this stuff is so way out there brother and just doesn't make any sense to me. I know you got this from somewhere else, but does it really make any sense to you?

Respectfully,

Clark

CHRIST IS ALL IN ALL,
Clark




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