Christ removes all barriers to catholicity of His church through faith

JeffLogan's picture

Thinking about Christ and how He breaks down all barriers and spoils all principalities and powers which prevent true universality, true catholicity, of His body, the church...

Has anyone ever considered that a living faith is not achieved by adding our works to our faith but rather, that faith is a gift from God which being quickened by the Holy Spirit produces obedience (good works)? (The keyword here is "quickened". It would serve you well to consult your Strong's Concordance.)

Think about this verse and tell me what it means:

    And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. -Acts 5:32 (KJV)

But first, before you answer, tell me what this means to demonstrate your wisdom:

    "Love means never having to say you're sorry." (Love Story, The movie.)

Does it mean...

    1) Love does nothing to warrant an apology

    2) Love takes no account of injury

    3) Other (explain)

Now answer the verse in question:

    And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. -Acts 5:32 (KJV)

Does it mean...

    1) God only gives His Holy Spirit to those who obey Him

    2) God gives His Holy Spirit to men so they might obey Him

    3) Other (explain)

This is a discovery exercise and not a theological debate. Opinions are welcomed but scriptural support would be even better. Be sure to interpret your scriptures so we can understand how you are using them. Commentaries may be insightful but a paraphrase in your own words would be appreciated and would demonstrate you understand your subject matter.

jwmcmac's picture

JqLogan quoted: "Pope John

JqLogan quoted:

"Pope John Paul II

63. Christ came to accomplish a new "exodus", to restore freedom to the oppressed. He performed many healings on the Sabbath (cf. Mt 12:9-14 and parallels), certainly not to violate the Lord's Day, but to reveal its full meaning: "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mk 2:27). Opposing the excessively legalistic interpretation of some of his contemporaries, and developing the true meaning of the biblical Sabbath, Jesus, as "Lord of the Sabbath" (Mk 2:28), restores to the Sabbath observance its liberating character, carefully safeguarding the rights of God and the rights of man. This is why Christians, called as they are to proclaim the liberation won by the blood of Christ, felt that they had the authority to transfer the meaning of the Sabbath to the day of the Resurrection.
Source: Pope John Paul II, Dies Domini.."

This is why Christians, called as they are to proclaim the liberation won by the blood of Christ, felt that they had the authority to transfer the . . . meaning . . . of the Sabbath to the Day of Resurrection."

jwmcmac comments:

Thanks for quoting John Paul II.

He said it correctly.

This is a 'New Covenant' . . . a Spiritualized Version of the Old Covenant . . . so to speak.

It is proper to Transfer the Meaning of the Old Sabbath to the New Day with the Spiritualized Meaning that the old Sabbath foreshadowed.

It would have been very confusing if there was not this break and the other breaks which occurred between the Old and the New Covenants, such as circumcision not being required (although it is probably a healthy idea none-the-less for infants to receive circumcision -- IMO).

The Spiritual Meanings of the old Sabbath were all Preserved and Transferred . . . as needed . . . to the Day of Worship of the New Covenant . . . Sunday . . . but all the 'traditions' of men were left behind . . . although you who do not 'see it' do not see it.

The Catholic Faith is a Spiritualized Version of the Jewish Faith . . . a Sacramental System where outward sign is Wed to the Spiritual Reality which that sign represents . . . and where the Spiritual gives Life to the Natural.

GOD Bless us all.




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