One Flesh Union - Christ and the Church

De Maria's picture

What is the One Flesh Union concerning Christ and the Church?

I have posted a version of this question in the Biblical Studies because I believe it is a beautiful question to ponder. And another version in the interdenominational Discussions to see how we view this mystery as expressed in the Sacrament of Matrimony differently.

But I have really been waiting patiently and anxiously for quite a long time to post this particular question on this forum because in another discussion here, the Catholic view of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church was called blasphemous. Specifically this teaching from the Catechism.

795 Christ and his Church thus together make up the "whole Christ" (Christus totus). The Church is one with Christ. The saints are acutely aware of this unity:

Let us rejoice then and give thanks that we have become not only Christians, but Christ himself. Do you understand and grasp, brethren, God's grace toward us? Marvel and rejoice: we have become Christ. For if he is the head, we are the members; he and we together are the whole man. . . . The fullness of Christ then is the head and the members. But what does "head and members" mean? Christ and the Church.

Our redeemer has shown himself to be one person with the holy Church whom he has taken to himself.

Head and members form as it were one and the same mystical person.

A reply of St. Joan of Arc to her judges sums up the faith of the holy doctors and the good sense of the believer: "About Jesus Christ and the Church, I simply know they're just one thing, and we shouldn't complicate the matter."

Our understanding of the One Flesh Union between Christ and the Church is based upon this verse.
Ephesians 5:
30For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Now, it seems to me that our understanding lines up pretty well with Scripture.

And so, I posted this particular thread to see how your views contrast with the Catholic view of this greatest and most wonderful of mysteries.

Sincerely,

De Maria

jwmcmac's picture

Well, we are One with CHRIST

Well, we are One with CHRIST at our Baptism, One Bread with HIM in the Eucharist . . . HIS Mystical Body, the Church . . . and we are this by Grace . . . HE taking on our Flesh . . . so to speak . . .

. . . and if we are in sin . . . then we are HIS Torn Flesh.

But . . . we are One with HIM . . . so that HE said to Paul 'Why does thou persecute ME."

JESUS clearly identifies HIMSELF with us, personally.

This does not mean that we are GOD, but since HE is making us a member of the Royal Family . . . taking us with HIM into the Life of the HOLY TRINITY . . . we clearly will be a member of the Family of GOD . . . and this by Grace, through our Flesh and Blood and Spirit Union with CHRIST.

Right now, we are sinners . . . being Saved by the Blood of the Lamb . . . if we Repent and Believe and are Baptized into Union with that Lamb, consuming HIM and HE us . . . One Bread, One Body.

What we will be . . . in the Life to come . . . is yet to be revealed . . . Scripture relating that at least some of men will even judge the angels . . . presumably those who have fallen . . . but we don't need to know the answer to that question.

We do know where we must stop with this . . . in that we are not GODs . . . though . . . in CHRIST . . . we are being made to be One with GOD . . . and I believe that this is what is meant in the catechism passage.

GOD Bless us all.




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