Changes in RCC teaching

Maggs's picture

This is one area that I find quite troubling...
Changes in Teaching? I hope this is not too controversial. If it is, please remove my post.

I am not longer in the RCC and disagree with many things in the church and in the article/link below...some would consider me a heretic.

One will say for instance that I am "seperated bretheran" Another pope in the past would say that I am "condemned"

One would say that my children would have been in "Limbo" if passed away and not baptized.... Another time later, it would be said that it no longer is the teaching or that it never was the teaching...

I have read lots of history and many differences over 1000's of years in this teaching. No mudslinging intented.

There is certainly plenty of evidence of contradictions.

Here is one example:

This papal bull is as official as they can get. It is an “infallible” pronouncement of Catholic doctrine. The Pope who wrote it is on his way to becoming a canonized saint or perhaps he already is by now. Pope John Paul II beatified him on September 3, 2000.[11] Beatification is the last step before canonization.

We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.

****Hence, if anyone shall dare**** -- which God forbid! -- to think otherwise than as has been defined by us, let him know and understand that he is *condemned* by his own judgment; that he has suffered shipwreck in the faith; that he has separated from the unity of the Church; and that, furthermore, by his own action he incurs the penalties established by law if he should are to express in words or writing or by any other outward means the errors he think in his heart*******************

Given at St. Peter's in Rome, the eighth day of December, 1854, in the eighth year of our pontificate. Pius IX

How can I be condemned and just seperated?

The Holy Scriptures are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 3:15

Love in Christ,

Maria Smith's picture

Maggs- I understand, believe


I understand, believe me, what you are saying. Maybe it is how you said it that I misunderstood.

Church is church. Yes, it was sad for a mother to believe her baby who died is in limbo and now not. Who is really to know is what I say. Who knows? The saints have had visions of such places but who knows for real-we have not died and been there or seen it. It is possible that that particular belief was wrong and now is being corrected. I don't know. What I do know is that the church really prays and ponders and searches before making a change in its beliefs or adds to it. That is a truth.

Now, I know God will not look at who is Catholic who is Lutheran,methodist, baptist, etc.... I know that He looks at the heart and the good done, the love given.

The kingdom of God is within you. WE ALL are His body, regardless of the faith that you happen to fall into.

That is why I cannot and never will understand why there is intollerance between the different faiths. Why should I get so blinding mad about our differences? I say what I believe and the person listening can either accept or reject. I may think they are wrong in the rejection but that is their choice. We have freedom in religion and God allows us freedom of choice.

I believe in infant baptism, yet I married a man who is protestant and does not. I married in the Catholic church but we raised our children christian in the baptist faith- they were not baptized and allow to choose when they wanted. Was I scared- yes. Did I regret it - yes. why? Only one has been baptised. I pray for the other two. I even confessed this as I thought it was such a sin and was told that at the time I did what I truly believed to be in their best interest and was told that I did not sin. Well, I felt better in that regard but I pray for their salvation every day of my life. YES I regret with my whole heart. If, later on in life they chose a different religion, I would say ok, fine but at least I know they were baptized and in the fold of Christ's salvation. There is a lot to be said for baby baptism as far as I am concerned.

As to other beliefs, I believe with my whole heart that we should show devotion to the Mother of God. And why not? She raised him, loved him, fed Him, all that a mother does and she watched Him die. Yes, that Mother rightly deserves honor for God honored her above all women and are we better in knowledge that God? No. So, yes I honor and love her for her sacrifice as a Mother was great indeed. And she helps us by interceding for us in our prayers to the Lord.

These beliefs still does not change the fact that Christ is in each of us and we,although different in belief, are still all united. Let's just stop the bickering and learn from each other but mostly just love. Love each for God loves each, His Son died for each, how can we do different?

Maggs, you are a very special person and I am highly fond of you. I wish you and yours so much grace and happiness and many blessings now at this special season in the church but also always throughout your life.

God Bless!

Yours in Christ,

Yours in Christ,
Maria 玛丽亚
CCEL Hostess