Changes in RCC teaching

Maggs's picture

This is one area that I find quite troubling...
Changes in Teaching? I hope this is not too controversial. If it is, please remove my post.

I am not longer in the RCC and disagree with many things in the church and in the article/link below...some would consider me a heretic.

One will say for instance that I am "seperated bretheran" Another pope in the past would say that I am "condemned"

One would say that my children would have been in "Limbo" if passed away and not baptized.... Another time later, it would be said that it no longer is the teaching or that it never was the teaching...

I have read lots of history and many differences over 1000's of years in this teaching. No mudslinging intented.

There is certainly plenty of evidence of contradictions.

Here is one example:

This papal bull is as official as they can get. It is an “infallible” pronouncement of Catholic doctrine. The Pope who wrote it is on his way to becoming a canonized saint or perhaps he already is by now. Pope John Paul II beatified him on September 3, 2000.[11] Beatification is the last step before canonization.

We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.

****Hence, if anyone shall dare**** -- which God forbid! -- to think otherwise than as has been defined by us, let him know and understand that he is *condemned* by his own judgment; that he has suffered shipwreck in the faith; that he has separated from the unity of the Church; and that, furthermore, by his own action he incurs the penalties established by law if he should are to express in words or writing or by any other outward means the errors he think in his heart*******************

Given at St. Peter's in Rome, the eighth day of December, 1854, in the eighth year of our pontificate. Pius IX

How can I be condemned and just seperated?

The Holy Scriptures are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 3:15

Love in Christ,

Maggs's picture

Those are all excellent

Those are all excellent thoughts and questions Maria. I completely understand what you are saying.

I personally follow Jesus and His word. He is my leader and the Bible is my map. I believe I am in a church that teaches the truth, but I do believe that my pastor is infallible, but I have not yet found him to teach something different than what the word says. But I believe that I am responsible to be like the Bereans who said this:

"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true" (Acts 17:11)

I do not follow Luther or examples, but only Jesus. The word of God was what spoke to me that late night as I read the book of John and then my life was transformed...Truly I was not even in a certain church yet. I did not understand the differences in teaching. I was very naive to what all the different denominations taught. I only knew of the religion that I was brought up in, then when I read the word I was so very shocked!

There are tons of different thoughts on for instance the way baptism is done or perhaps speaking in tongues...but SALVATION is the main issue and the issue of "eternal life or damnation"

All the other issues are of course important, but nothing like salvation and who God is. There is only one way of salvation and it is layed out for us in the word of God. That is what seperates a Christian from a non-Christian.

We are individually responsible for making the decision to trust/repent/give our lives to Christ or not and BELIEVE in what He did on the cross and believe in what His word says.

It just cannot be made sense of that I would be damned if I lived a certain time long ago and now today I would possibly have eternal life.. It could not be said that the babies are in limbo(it was told to 1000's if not millions) and now not in limbo.

That is talking about our "ETERNAL DESTINATION". God already told us in His word. I can trust in His word.

Regarding the denominations
Well, the same thing was going on even a few years after Jesus' death, the whole bit about Christians not agreeing over certain things, not having the same understanding or 'interpretation' of the ways of the Lord. Even Peter (who had personally walked with Jesus) had to be rebuked by Paul because he was swerving off the beaten path (Gal. 2:11-14)s
Scriptures that show that these things are not new to today.
1 Cor. 1:10,Eph. 4:2b,Eph. 4:3,Eph. 4:11-16

Perhaps does not justify the differences that Christians have, but I am sure that you have heard it said that there will not be a Baptist, Methodist, heaven. The body of Christ is made up of those "In Him"

The church is still standing Maria just like it did from the book of acts where they were first called Christians-those who have put their faith in Christ for SALVATION.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

God Bless your life Maria and I always love to talk to you as you are very kind! I hope that I appear that way in my writing as is my intentions even thought it may sound inflammatory.