Changes in RCC teaching

Maggs's picture

This is one area that I find quite troubling...
Changes in Teaching? I hope this is not too controversial. If it is, please remove my post.

I am not longer in the RCC and disagree with many things in the church and in the article/link below...some would consider me a heretic.

One will say for instance that I am "seperated bretheran" Another pope in the past would say that I am "condemned"

One would say that my children would have been in "Limbo" if passed away and not baptized.... Another time later, it would be said that it no longer is the teaching or that it never was the teaching...

I have read lots of history and many differences over 1000's of years in this teaching. No mudslinging intented.

There is certainly plenty of evidence of contradictions.

Here is one example:

This papal bull is as official as they can get. It is an “infallible” pronouncement of Catholic doctrine. The Pope who wrote it is on his way to becoming a canonized saint or perhaps he already is by now. Pope John Paul II beatified him on September 3, 2000.[11] Beatification is the last step before canonization.

We declare, pronounce, and define that the doctrine which holds that the most Blessed Virgin Mary, in the first instance of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege granted by Almighty God, in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the human race, was preserved free from all stain of original sin, is a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful.

****Hence, if anyone shall dare**** -- which God forbid! -- to think otherwise than as has been defined by us, let him know and understand that he is *condemned* by his own judgment; that he has suffered shipwreck in the faith; that he has separated from the unity of the Church; and that, furthermore, by his own action he incurs the penalties established by law if he should are to express in words or writing or by any other outward means the errors he think in his heart*******************

Given at St. Peter's in Rome, the eighth day of December, 1854, in the eighth year of our pontificate. Pius IX

How can I be condemned and just seperated?

The Holy Scriptures are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 2 Timothy 3:15

Love in Christ,

Maria Smith's picture

Be fair


Not to offend anyone and I'm in no way educated in these things but this is how I see these changes.

I believe it is in the Church's right to review or restudy it's position areas of faith and make any adjustments, after which I am sure, with much thought, prayer and consultation. The Church does not make changes regularly or lightly, it may spend decades before making a major change. So, I am certain that this change is being given the highest thought and prayer.

Next, what about the drastic changes that Luther, Calvin brought about? Why is it that even the protestants cannot agree among themselves? Where is the thought or prayer process there? How do those changes come about and who gave them authority?

I am not saying what Calvin or Luther did is wrong - not at all. But why is it that you are so hard in a change that the Church may make vs a hugh change that the protestants took upon themselves? Would it not be the same thing - only now it is the Catholics making a change within their faith. Why are they not allowed this right- especially when done so thoughtfully and prayerfully for many years?

You are not looking at it from all angles and not been fair in your thinking. It is not wrong for the Church to make a change in faith. What may be revealed to one Pope may not have been to the previous. We leave that to the illumination of God on that person and trust in the action.

Same as the followers of Calvin and Luther (just using these two as examples) as well as others thought it to have been a enlightenment from God as to what was right.
The Church will continue to pray and correct itself as needed and has stood for 2000+ years - it will not tear itself into different little groups following their own thoughts. You must admit that protestants do this- get upset- leave that church and start their own. Now that, is something that I do not understand.

Yours in Christ,

Yours in Christ,
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