1 Corinthians 3:15 -but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire

De Maria's picture

For Catholics the answer is Purgatory.

What is the answer for Protestants?

1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

DanFugett's picture

An explanation, respectfully, JWMCMAC MODIFIED

In all your hypotheses of why I disagree with you, please allow me to explain. It is simply and purely because on the basis of scripture I believe you are wrong in the things we are discussing. Further, since they dont flow from plain and clear scripture, I will not take your church's word for matters so important that they affect where people will spend eternity. I am not pretending or being disgenuine in any of this .... I am just not accepting what you are fishing with (hook, line and sinker). To that end and for that reason, I hear what you are saying (that the Church is infallible), and I reject the doctrine on the grounds that it is unscriptural.

Is that plain enough?

For the sake of this reply I am not going to defend my position of Sola Scriptura. That isnt our purpose in this thread. The purpose of this thread was to provide an alternative explanation for 1 Cor 3 "saved by fire." The premise of the thread was never that that view has to agree with your church, and we have provided the information requested multiple times. Of course it doesnt square with your church and the more historically recent Roman Catholic councils.

I am not asking you to accept either sola sciptura or our views that differ from the official RCC view of scriptures. I do ask that you respect that this is the way some of us, including me, have genuinely chosen even if it puts us at odds with the Roman Catholic church. Since I value God opinion above that of the RCC, no dilemma for me here.

Why?

The scriptures and the truly catholic ecumenical creeds (1st 3) in the Church age speak of the Father, the Son and the Spirit. In its right place AFTER God, "we believe in the holy catholic church" - not the "Mother Church" and not the "Queen of Heaven" which imply much more than the scriptures or creeds allow. Listen to your very wording (salvation through the Church, loyalty to the Church, "Like Her Master, the Church possesses the fullness of Truth"). It begs one consider your theology contrasted with the ancient creeds and with scripture, and this all tied into who people are going to believe about what happens when one leaves this world for the next. Are we to believe a non-scriptural hope of a second chance, or the necessity and only Hope of total and eternal absolution through faith in Jesus Christ.

Who are we going to believe? God or man.

Subsequent and non-catholic (catholic meaning universal) councils/creeds erred by elevating other entities and beings equal to God, and far beyond what the early creeds and scripture supported. So it is not lack of love for the real Church that causes me to reject extra-biblical doctrines your church is teaching, and asserts to be the true Gospel. It is with a love for the Church of Christ that I reject such doctrine as Purgatory to explain the fire of 1 Cor 3.

I hope that explains why I reject the assertion that the Church is infallible, and in particular why I reject your church's view on Purgatory. The real Church is forgiven, holy and redeemed; but not infallible ! In closing, before someone starts howling that my anti-Roman Catholicism sentiment is showing again, I am replying to a direct query that again calls to question my motivation. This is all when we dare to question and disagree with your mother church.

In Christ,

Dan Fugett

In Christ,

Dan Fugett, Sr Moderator
dfugett2010@gmail.com




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