1 Corinthians 3:15 -but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire

De Maria's picture

For Catholics the answer is Purgatory.

What is the answer for Protestants?

1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

JeffLogan's picture

Divine Eyesight


How do you reconcile the verses which speak of death with the doctrine of purgatory?

For example, consider something very clearly stated in scripture--the teaching being developed from Genesis to Revelation--yet not understood. Take the very short and concise verse which says, "The wages of sin is DEATH." Now couple that with the famous verse in John 3:16. "...that who soever believeth in Him should NOT PERISH." And then add Jesus' words in Matt 10:28, "fear [God] who is able to DESTROY both body and SOUL in HELL." Yet, with that clear language to learn from people still think sinners will not die but will instead live forever in hell fire.

These verses plainly teach that man is not immortal but can DIE, PERISH, and be DESTROYED. In fact, Church Tradition teaches us that only God has immortality. Isn't that correct? In other words, no man is immortal in any sense of that word. Life is found only in Christ. Jesus is the source of life. Men have no source of life apart from Christ. They do no inherently posses life. They are not immortal.

    our Lord Jesus Christ. . . who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; Who only hath immortality, . . . to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
    1 Tim 6:14-16 (KJV)

And, again,

    In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    John 1:4 (KJV)

Jesus spoke of death as a sleep. (Luke 8:52; John 11:11). But He told Martha that He was the Resurrection and the Life. And then He resurrected Lazarus from his sleep.

When a person sleeps they are not aware of the passing of time nor what is happening in the world around them. They are not conscious of that until they awake. So when a person dies they sleep, just as Jesus said.

The old testament uses the phrase "slept with his fathers" to describe a person's death. 1Kings 2:10. And Solomon, who also "slept with his fathers" (1Kings 11:43) said under inspiration of God that "the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun." (Eccl 9:5-6).

I believe that in death the person is resting in the tomb waiting for the resurrection. But he is not aware of anything and certainly cannot partake in some imaginary after-life purgatory.

You affirmed earlier that Catholic Tradition never disagrees with Scripture. Then the Church must also agree with these scriptures which plainly state that a man sleeps at death and is not aware of any thing but rests in the grave awaiting the resurrection. And certainly they would agree with Jesus, of whom Peter was an apostle, that men sleep in death.

We are in perfect agreement because I am Sola Scriptura and you are Scripture and Tradition and correct tradition cannot disagree with scripture.

We never say that scripture cannot disagree with tradition, therefore we acknowledge that tradition is judged of scripture. There are traditions which do not disagree with scripture and then there are those which do. Traditions exist which involve human sacrifice and idol worship. Surely a church which teaches tradition and scripture in perfect harmony would never embrace a tradition which disagrees with scripture.

So how do you reconcile the verses which speak of death as sleep with the doctrine of purgatory?

"Iniquitas mentita est sibi"

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