1 Corinthians 3:15 -but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire

De Maria's picture

For Catholics the answer is Purgatory.

What is the answer for Protestants?

1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

De Maria's picture

It has been answered. You simply don't like the response.

#4. You have used Matt 16:19 to support the idea of papal authority, especially as it relates to power to release/not release from this alleged Purgatory. If matt 16:19 is the scripture you claim Peter became Pope, and hence power of the keys to control Purgatory, then what of Matt 18?

What about it?

After explaining it is the Father’s will that not one little one perish, Christ teaches those who don’t hear the Church are to be regarded as a tax collector and a Gentile.

Are you insinuating that Christ contradicted Himself?

Given that Matthew is writing this, we must be careful to keep this in its context. This passage on church discipline, including the ecclesiastical authority to bind and loose, occurs in between Christ’s statement God’s desire that none perish and the answer to Peter’s question that forgiveness is to be extended 70X7 times. The power of binding and loosing was given to the Church, of which Peter was only one member.

The one whom Jesus renamed Rock, a name that signifies God.
The one to whom Jesus gave the keys to the Kingdom of heaven.
The one whom Jesus appointed Shepher of His Flock when He said "feed my sheep".

In fact, he was just one of the many living stones that make up the Church.

There are stones and there are Stones. Jesus did not come to you and I and say, "You are Peter". He only did this to Simon Bar Jonah.

This is found in 1 Per 2:1-10 where Peter speaks of the priesthood of all belivers and refers to Christians as living stones. Peter makes absolutely no reference to himself as being pope or having keys to life/death or being the Rock of the Church.

Why should he when the Church was already established and functioning that way in obedience to Christ's words?

No mention is made of the other doctrines that surround keeping people in sin so their loyalty is assured – just forgiveness freely given with the only expectation being that of passing the behavior along.

Really? Have you forgotten these verses:
1 Corinthians 16:22
If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha.

Galatians 1:8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

1 Timothy 1:20
Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

Obviously, the Apostles understood that they had the power to retain and remit sin.

Since the pope can allegedly apply plenary indulgences,

But not willy nilly.

why, for the sake of Christian charity, does the pope not empty purgatory through plenary indulgences?

1. The question doesn't really make sense.
2. Precisely for the sake of Christ's justice. Do you believe that it is either charity or justice to release every prisoner from jail on earth before they have paid their debt to society?

3. What is a plenary indulgence, in your opinion and how does one receive one?

Why does he not apply plenary indulgences for to everyone and get everyone out of that state ??? This was a valid question asked about 500 years ago, and it has never been answered.

Where do you get the impression that a plenary indulgence is granted to people in purgatory?

A plenary indulgence keeps people out of purgatory.

It was neither a valid question then, nor now.




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