1 Corinthians 3:15 -but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire

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For Catholics the answer is Purgatory.

What is the answer for Protestants?

1 Corinthians 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

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It is both...

...is it faith that works by love that perfects the saints or is it suffering temporal punishment for sins that purifies.

It is both.

What you are missing is the fact that not all who die in Christ will be purified in Purgatory. Some will go straight to Heaven.

Why will they go straight to Heaven? Because they have been purified perfectly in this life. As Jesus said:

Matthew 5:48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

To me, purgatory is another atonement. And I am wondering, if Christ purged my sins so that I stand justified (just if I never sinned) then what purpose is purgatory?

It is for those sins which you commit anew.

Catholic teaching says that Christ purged us of sins in Baptism. Anyone who is baptized, should he die at that moment, would go straight to heaven. No purgatory.

However, the Church recognizes that after Baptism, we soon backslide. That is why Christ provided for us the sacrament of Confession. So that any sins we commit after Baptism, may be forgiven.

However, having committed a sin after Baptism, we must now pay the debt ourselves in full. Either here or in Purgatory.

Hebrews 10 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

God is not to be trifled with.

[quote] Do the Catholics say that Christ's death was not sufficient to pay the satisfaction due the law for transgressions?

No. But that is not what Jesus did.

Jesus purchased us. Every sin we committed before we were His was forgiven and written off.

But every sin we commit after we are His is a different story. We are debtors to the Spirit and we have added to our debt an amount which was not subsidized.

Romans 8 12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

I can see that Christ allows suffering in this lifetime as a way of drawing us to something better and to allow us to enter into his sufferings but I see no merit in it with regard to atoning for sin of any class.

1 Peter 4:1
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

From the Catholic Encyclopedia -

Purgatory (Lat., "purgare", to make clean, to purify) in accordance with Catholic teaching is a place or condition of temporal punishment for those who, departing this life in God's grace, are, not entirely free from venial faults, or have not fully paid the satisfaction due to their transgressions.

That is correct.

Is it Protestant doctrine that all Protestants die without sin? If not, how do they get into heaven when only the pure will go there(Rev 21)?




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