Can bad doctrine send you to Hell?

nodenom's picture

The few assembled on this forum are proof enough that Roman Catholics and Protestants and Mormons and JW's will never agree on certain points of doctrine. In fact within each denomination, you will also find disagreement.
This comes as no surprise since we are all still pretty messed up people. A large percentage of confessing 'christians' still suffer the same troubles as non christians as we play out our own little dramas we think important.

Now the question "how much wrong doctrine, dogma etc. must we embrace to lose our salvation"? In fact, can we lose our salvation by embracing wrong doctrine or do we just put ourselves in danger of never seeing the full life Christ has provided manifesting in our lives?

Will we ever see 'His kingdom come and His will being done' or will we just play our pitiful little parts on this stage and never see what could have been?

DanFugett's picture

Ok - from http://www.newadvent.org/ cathen/08026a.htm#IIB mod

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Thus Clement V ordained that inquisitors should not apply the torture without the consent of the diocesan bishop. From the middle of the thirteenth century, they did not disavow the principle itself, and, as their restrictions to its use were not always heeded, its severity, though of tell exaggerated, was in many cases extreme.

The principle of torture was allowed and sometimes extreme.

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The consuls of Carcassonne in 1286 complained to the pope, the King of France, and the vicars of the local bishop against the inquisitor Jean Garland, whom they charged with inflicting torture in an absolutely inhuman manner, and this charge was no isolated one. The case of Savonarola has never been altogether cleared up in this respect.

Charges of inhumanity were not isolated and there is no reason to doubt the charges.

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Before long complaints of grievous abuses reached Rome, and were only too well founded. In a Brief of Sixtus IV of 29 January 1482, they were blamed for having, upon the alleged authority of papal Briefs, unjustly imprisoned many people, subjected them to cruel tortures, declared them false believers, and sequestrated the property of the executed.

Cruel torture - not my words but those of the RCC or at least a catholic friendly site

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Torture was applied only too frequently and too cruelly, but certainly not more cruelly than under Charles V's system of judicial torture in Germany.

Well there is sure the right standard of comparison. We can all take comfort that charles V was more inhumane than the tortures of an organization that claims not to have ever erred.

Again, whether protestant or catholic, few people will genuinely serve God unless the teachings of the faith have won the heart. Torture most certainly existed, and no side was innocent of a practice that did not help people follow God with their heart. Torture (new advent's word now not just mine) does not create sincere faith or a real relationship with the Savior. The only difference is we know the Reformers were human sinners, just like we are, and that only Biblical salvation creates a genuine relationship based on God's grace.

We dont claim the absence of error or protection from our humanity so we dont place the Church on the same level as Christ. Christ alone is Savior to the world.

In Christ,

Dan Fugett, Sr Moderator
dfugett2010@gmail.com




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