Discussions on Jesus (combining Was Jesus God & Jesus in the Bread)

Loutzenhiser's picture

Both these threads are covering about the same territory now and getting long again. Continue both threads here.

JeffLogan's picture

Nearly what you said

Scripture says that Jesus was first God, then human.

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. . . And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    John 1:1-4,14 (KJV)

It also says that God is the only one who has immortality meaning He cannot die.

    [The] only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
    Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

    1 Tim 6:15-16 (KJV)

Since it was not possible for God to die, Jesus took upon himself the likeness of our sinful flesh so that in his humanity he could taste death for every man.

    But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

    Heb 2:9 (KJV)

But I don't see that scripture says anywhere that man is naturally immortal and that his spirit lives on forever. It does say that God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed life into him and man became a living soul.

    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    Gen 2:7 (KJV)

But then it explains that when a man dies the opposite happens. The breath goes forth and man ceases to be a living soul. Only the body void of life is left to return to dust from which it was taken.

    Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish.

    Psalms 146:3-4 (KJV)

So when Jesus died as a man he must have kept his divinity suppressed waiting for the Father to call him forth from the grave. And, a similar thing happens to man. He goes into the grave waiting for the trump of God and the voice of the archangel to call him from the grave. And at that moment he will be changed in a twinkling from mortal to immortal.

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