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The Xmas Thread: Discussions on secular/pagan practices

Loutzenhiser's picture

This thread is for the discussion of secular/pagan Xmas problems and thoughts. I used Xmas to differentiate this thread form the Christmas thread. To discuss the birth of Jesus please use the Christmas Thread.

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A different approach

A reply to: My focus was on what Tertullian said/didnt say not Wikipedia
Submitted by DanFugett on Tue, 2010-02-16 18:27.

As I discuss this subject with others it seems to me that they are of the impression that the Pagan practices came first. But they did not. Many were customs and practices given to man by God that have been perverted. Take the day of rest, or the sacrifice, or the priesthood, or worshiping the sun, or almost everything else.

Now in the desert the Lord commanded Moses to make a brazen serpent and attach it to a pole. Then He commanded Moses to tell the people to look upon that graven image to be healed of the snake bites. Do you think it would be right for us to make a similar image and look upon it with the hopes of being healed of our maladies? Why not? Because God specifically instructed them with regard to that image. And what about the images of angels on the curtains of the tabernacle and over the ark?

My point is that we ought to do those things which God tells us to do and not presume that we can sanctify something for a holy purpose that we fashion for ourselves. That is so opposed to the doctrine of grace alone. It is so salvation by works it isn't funny at all. That is my point in this post.

    15 For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. 16 For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many. 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
    Isaiah 66:15-17 (KJV)

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