Christians speaking to the dead

trueseek1's picture

Had never thought of it this way, until I found a book on the shelf expounding on one of the well known passages of the Holy Scriptures: The Transfiguration passage. Jesus has a live visit from Moses and Elijah and in the presence of the other fallible men, a couple of apostles, he enters into conversation with these two "dead saints". The author also highlighted another instance when God rose the dead and they went into the cities to show themselves as alive in Christ. I had read these passages many times before, and heard countless evangelical sermons on them, but in all my previous readings of the last couple of hundred years of evangelical commentaries, I had never heard of the reality that these visitations represented. Does anyone know how did the faithful early Church fathers who honored God, in the nonheretical Church, view these passages?

Also, the author differentiated clearly between using a medium to reach the dead as Saul did to talk to Samuel, and both these passages, with the understanding that Christ revealed clearly that it is not sinful to have a conversation with a live saint, but evil if one tries to use mediums as the ungodly do.

Thanks for all insights on these passages.

Another view point

II Cor 5:8 says to be absent from the body is to be present with Christ.
Matt 22:32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.”

To call the saints "dead" might be a poor choice of words.

So if those that have "fallen asleep" are with Christ, they are also alive. Since they have found favor with God to be in His presence and have nothing else to do there but pray and glorify Him, I put my prayer request in their capable hands rather than so much in man's as we are all busy with work, family and other distractions.

The EO view of the Transfiguration is that Moses was the epitamy of the Law and Elijah was the epitamy of the Prophets. Jesus came to fulfill the promise of the Law and the Prophets. So His meeting with the two of them was proof of His divinity. What were they talking about? No one knows. Probably discussing the details of His crucifiction.

In Christ,
Paul




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