Christians speaking to the dead

trueseek1's picture

Had never thought of it this way, until I found a book on the shelf expounding on one of the well known passages of the Holy Scriptures: The Transfiguration passage. Jesus has a live visit from Moses and Elijah and in the presence of the other fallible men, a couple of apostles, he enters into conversation with these two "dead saints". The author also highlighted another instance when God rose the dead and they went into the cities to show themselves as alive in Christ. I had read these passages many times before, and heard countless evangelical sermons on them, but in all my previous readings of the last couple of hundred years of evangelical commentaries, I had never heard of the reality that these visitations represented. Does anyone know how did the faithful early Church fathers who honored God, in the nonheretical Church, view these passages?

Also, the author differentiated clearly between using a medium to reach the dead as Saul did to talk to Samuel, and both these passages, with the understanding that Christ revealed clearly that it is not sinful to have a conversation with a live saint, but evil if one tries to use mediums as the ungodly do.

Thanks for all insights on these passages.

DanFugett's picture

Depends on basis of belief

Depends on whether the saints live IN Christ and make it to heaven (1) on the basis of God's grace through faith, or (2) on the basis of God's grace through faith AND works. I'm not going any further into that because that isnt the topic.

Yet, there is a relationship between our total belief system (1 OR 2 above, muturally exclusive)and whether faith in Christ's work is all we need. It is the total belief system which places entire trust on the finsihed work of Christ, apart from all works on our part, that brings certainty. Certain of our place in Christ, final destination is based on faith that results in works of love rather than faith and works of love. That same faith makes praying TO the dead needless.

Why?

God's children dont need a mediator other than the ONLY mediator between God and man that scripture articulates.

Love in Christ,

Dan
danfugett@woh.rr.com
Study Group Leader, Book of Romans
Associate Moderator

Eph 2:8-9 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one

In Christ,

Dan Fugett, Sr Moderator
dfugett2010@gmail.com




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