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Prayer is like breathing

RobynHerself's picture

Do you find it difficult to pray, or do you find prayer as natural as breathing?

For some, it seems to us that prayer is as they air they breathe, rising from the heart, a continual fragrant offering to God.

For others, it feels like a task, difficult to get past handing God a "to do" list.

We want move from a "Honey-Do" type of prayer life to a continual stream of communication with God.

Share some things you have found helpful in growing in prayer. We may explore these ideas more fully in future discissions.

Vara Sue Tamminga's picture


I can't find the full text of Kelly's work online or in the CCEL library. Scott's book would not be as well known, I wouldn't expect to find his work online. But amazon has plenty of used copies of both at very reasonable prices. I wish both of them were online. As an English professor, I really appreciate good writing and Kelly articulates the transcendent better than any book I know except the Bible. Not only is he remarkable among mystics for developing this praying without ceasing, but as a family man and professor, he accomplishes that consciousness outside of a monastery, remarkable indeed. So his words inspire and yet are very practical for busy 20th century protestants.

I just got back from the surgeon today. She is pleased with my progress and healing. Also, my son had some good news today, so thank you all for your prayers for me and mine. They are really helping. I reread some of Scott's Book in the Doctor's waiting room. It is just so powerful to realize how common these experiences of seeing or dreaming of Jesus are, how many ordinary people have them. Most people say that they have never told anyone about them before or only a few close friends. So imagine how many people out there are experiencing these visions or dreams and never tell anyone. As I read some of them today, it brings back my own visions and dreams. This week, I heard someone make fun of these experiences that I had shared and I asked myself again if I could have just imagined them because I needed them? But then I meditated and that spirit filled my heart so clearly and so strongly that I can't doubt that presence. These experiences are so different than fantasies. Another comment that most of these people make is that the vision has such power, that it cannot be described. That power is so different from mere fantasies or even normal dreams. It shakes the whole body, mind, and soul. I just hope more people read these two books, they were life changing for me. I really wish Kelly's works were online and in the CCEL library, they really should be. They are also quite short, you could easily read them in an afternoon. But they are so intense. I found myself quoting his work over and over again when I wrote my dissertation and had to find ways of describing the ineffable. Also, the breadth of his knowledge is remarkable, so he gives a wonderful perspective to prayer and yet he never sounds pedantic or like a scholar. He brings the inner life alive almost as much as a poet. Well now I have to quote Yeats, from his poem A Dialogue of Self and the Soul:

I am content to follow to its source
Every event in action or in thought;
Measure the lot; forgive myself the lot!
When such as I cast out remorse
So great a sweetness flows into the breast
We must laugh and we must sing,
We are blest by everything,
Everything we look upon is blest. -

See more at: http://allpoetry.com/A-Dialogue-Of-Self-And-Soul#sthash.WYNgNS4O.dpuf

Today as I listened to my Bible Class, I just thought about how blessed I have been to know the people I have known, to have had the teachers and friends and family that I have had. It has been so difficult at times, but it has also been amazing and glorious. I am just so grateful to share with all of you and so grateful for all the many people who share their hearts with me and so many others. Here is the link to my Bible class if any of you want to attend. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nunclicetbiblestudy?utm_source=crowd-live-backend&utm_medium=visit-channel&utm_campaign=notifications It meets live on Wednesdays at 6:30pm. The leader is a Swedengorgian minister and scholar. Swedenborg was a Swedish mystic in the 18th Century who had visions of angels for many years and his writings profoundly influenced Emerson, Thoreau, Whitman and many others. He dreamt that John Wesley wanted to speak with him and wrote him a letter.

Vara Sue Tamminga