God Created Adam Sin-ful

jeremiah1five's picture

Pretty bold statement. But before summarily discarding what I said I want to inform you that I have not read or studied this question from other resources. This is entirely my conclusions after looking at the Scripture and reasoning this out on my own (Isa. 1:18 ).
First, I agree that there is only One God, that there is none like Him, and He gives His glory to no one (1 Sam. 2:2). I also agree that God Himself is the standard by which everything and everyone is judged "against." I believe that there are no degrees of holiness, or righteousness, and even sin. One either has the Holy Spirit or they don't (Rom. 8:9). There is no such thing as half-pregnant.
I also accept the Biblical definition of sin is literally, "to miss the mark." What is the "mark?" The answer is the glory (and perfection) of God (Rom. 3:23). I also believe that God cannot reduplicate or transfer His glory to another without a Mediator. I believe that this realm we exist in of universe, matter, TIME and space, etc., was created by God in order to "mediate" His glory of holiness and righteousness, etc., into His elect man through His Son, Jesus Christ. I also understand the Doctrine of Imputation as mentioned in 2 Corinthians 5:21 is a nature-swap. Christ is imputed our sin-ful (missing the mark) nature, and we are imputed His righteous nature:

2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV)
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

I also believe that when God created the man from the dust of the ground that the image of God was the Son. What better image of a Father is there than a Son? I am assisted also in the knowledge and Scripture that we are being conformed into the image of Christ (Rom. 8:29), not the image of Adam. I believe God was looking at the new man, the hypostatic union, when He created the man from the dust of the ground. I also believe that Revelation 13:8 provides insight that before a righteous God can create an unrighteous being (man) that there was atonement made "from [before the foundation (creation) of the world."

The only way God can create an unrighteous (sin-ful) being was through atonement before He created heaven, earth, and man. Since God cannot reduplicate Himself in Himself that the universe was created in order for Him to bring about His plan for man.

I believe.

Oliver128's picture

God created Adam sin-ful?

A bold statement indeed ~ Peter was also wont to make a bold statement ~ and so also am I at times.

Without delving into every doctrine you mention but limiting my discussion (at first) to the subject of your ‘bold statement’ I offer the following observations:

Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. [ESV]
Gen 1:31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day. [ESV]

Now you suggest that Adam (and Eve) was created ‘sin-ful’ ~ but my edition of Genesis states that Adam (and Eve) was created in the ‘image of God’, both male and female, and that everything that God created was VERY GOOD ~ 1 John 5:9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater ~ I’m going with the witness given by God that Mankind was created in His ‘image’ and that His ‘image’ is at least ‘very good’.

Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God [ESV]
Eze 28:15 You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till unrighteousness was found in you. [ESV]

Even Satan was created blameless until that moment when unrighteousness was found in him ~ I believe that this unrighteousness was found in Satan when he lied to Eve concerning what God had instructed her and thereby he murdered Mankind ~ John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of lies [ESV] ~ Eve was deceived but Adam, of his own free will, and even as Satan did, willfully disobeyed God and at that moment unrighteousness was found in him.

Now since Adam was created in the ‘image of God’ and since Jesus is the expressed ‘image of God’ and since it is the ‘image’ of Jesus, as the Son of God, into which we are being transformed or conformed by God ~ is it not logical to ‘reason’ that we are being returned to that original state of the ‘image of God’ wherein God first created Mankind and intended Mankind to exist?

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Gal 4:6 And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into your hearts, crying out, "Abba, Father!"




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