Discussing the word "ALL" in 2 Cor. 5:14

JeffLogan's picture

2 Cor. 5 (NIV)


    14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died.
    15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.

I want to focus on the word "ALL" in this passage. What is the scope of the word "ALL?"

"...One died for all, and therefore all died."

Is it that everyone died with Christ on the cross and some just don't know it or won't believe it?

noprem's picture

In re 2 Cor 5 14ff

"For Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died. And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again. So from now on we regard no one from a worldly point of view. Though we once regarded Christ in this way, we do so no longer. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!"

The way I take this is that Paul is describing an aspect of being born again, which he was, certainly. First, Christ had to die. Then those who 'believe and obey' (John 3:16, 36) are born again, of the spirit. (John 1:12,13) So Paul now is obligated to see people as a spiritual person sees, looking for those with good heart condition as he travels preaching. Those who believed and obeyed he baptized ("in the name of ... the holy spirit", remember?).
(Peter needed strong convincing to develop his spiritual vision. Acts ch. 10 As an imperfect human he was also subject to backsliding on this issue. Gal 2:11 ff. Good thing it all got straightened out, else I wouldn't be a Christian: I'm not a natural Jew!)

Rom 6:3 "Or don't you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death?" As the old song has it, "Everybody wants to go to Heaven, but nobody wants to die"; recognizing that death is the only entry into Heaven!
And Rom 8:15,16: "For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. [Or, adoption by NIV fn] And by him we cry, "Abba, Father. The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children."

In short, I think I'm alive although a Christian- I can still fog a mirror- and I suspect you can pass the same test. Paul was still alive in the flesh after his conversion. (He wrote his letters afterward. Ps 115:17) But all of us need to think about everything from a spiritual standpoint if we expect to receive whatever reward Jehovah has in store.

All quotes etc. are NIV.

Doug




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