Reformed Theology: God's Grace

JeffLogan's picture

This discussion will be limited to the discussion of God's grace as it pertains to Reformed Theology.

Barry writes,

I would like to suggest that we explore the topic of "God's Grace " as it relates specifically to the process of one's coming to salvation. I personally am particularly interested in the doctrine of "Prevenient Grace", however, at ElderDad's suggestion which points out our primary forum theme, addressing the RT position termed "Irresistible Grace" first is the more appropriate approach.

So, if this approach is acceptable, I would invite someone to begin this thread by first defining the term, then giving a brief re-cap of the history of "TULIP", and concluding with Scriptural references supporting the concept. That should get us rolling.

Barring objections, I would encourage someone in the Reformed camp to please begin.

Grace and peace to all.

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(The first 3 headings are reserved for Reformed Theology Adherents ONLY)

Defining the terms (No opposing views here)
     Irresistible Grace
     Prevenient Grace
     etc...
Brief re-cap of the history of "TULIP" (No opposing views here)
     Early History
     Later History
     Unfolding History/Current Understanding
Scriptural references supporting the concept (No opposing views here)
     Irresistible Grace
     Prevenient Grace
     etc...
1st Discussion: Irresistible Grace
2nd Discussion: Prevenient Grace
3rd Discussion: etc...

bwarddvm's picture

Re: Interesting point, but...

I propose that the passage from 1 Corinthians is telling us that the matters on which the Holy Spirit speaks to the church (believers) are spiritual matters only comprehended at a spiritual ('heart') level by true believers. They are spiritual matters which the unspiritual (unbeliever) cannot receive because they are foolishness to him. Of course the unbeliever can understand them on an intellectual level and perhaps even agree with the concepts of which they speak on an intellectual level proportional to the common grace they have received. This is seen in the lives of many unbelievers whose moral standards, for example, comply with the instructions and admonitions Scripture gives to the church. But without faith they cannot please God because their heart motivation is never out of the desire to praise and glorify God alone.

That God gives any instruction or knowledge at all of His grace is a manifestation OF His grace. While that knowledge can bring benefit to all mankind, as I tried to explain in my composition on Common Grace, a true understanding and embracing of that knowledge born of the grace of saving faith is only possible for the believer. So, yes, it is all of grace. When we move soon to the RT beliefs regarding Special Grace that will hopefully explain its distinctions and manifestations in redeemed man in greater depth. But you do seem to follow the gist of what I am saying regarding the difference in grace given to the non-elect and that given to the elect after their salvation becomes no longer a promise but a fact, right?

Barry




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