The question of sin

Casalis's picture

Would someone please answer this question... Jesus came to free us from sin but sin still remains a struggle in the lives of His church. How exactly did He free us from sin as He said in John 10? Surely God can give abundant grace to His children so that they sin no more but its as if though He holds back that grace and allows the struggle though He hates sin.. Could someone find a consensus here?

michael_legna's picture

Degrees of Holiness

Holiness, when we look at the definition is related to an association with the divine. None of the definitions imply a perfect correspondence with the divine will. Even definition 3 concerning living according to a strict system, does not imply that it is in perfect accord with that system.

Holy -
1. Belonging to, derived from, or associated with a divine power; sacred.
2. Regarded with or worthy of worship or veneration; revered: a holy book.
3. Living according to a strict or highly moral religious or spiritual system; saintly: a holy person.
4. Specified or set apart for a religious purpose: a holy place.
5. Solemnly undertaken; sacrosanct: a holy pledge.
6. Regarded as deserving special respect or reverence: The pursuit of peace is our holiest quest.
7. Informal Used as an intensive: raised holy hell over the mischief their children did.

We see this even in the references to those holy men in the Bible. For instance John the Baptist.

Luk 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

Note in the above verse that John is the greatest among men (other than Christ of course), so that must mean either he alone was holy or there are levels of holiness.

See also the discussion between Elijah and Elisha:

2Ki 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.

Elisha was asking that he be made twice as holy as Elijah. Now this was said in a complimentary hyperbole, but still the idea was that Elisha (if not Elijah) could become greater in his service to the Lord.

This brings us to the idea of vessels in the house:

2Ti 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honor, and some to dishonor.

We see a whole spectrum of holiness (as in association with the divine) all the way from gold, through silver, wood and down to clay, all useful for the Masters purposes but not all of equal service or honor.




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